Willy, the concentration camp survivor who has experienced more evil than any other character, places no value on catabasis. When asked (in connection with Aeneid VI) 'Do you think everyone ought to descend to the underworld?', he replies briskly, 'Certainly not! It's very dark and stuffy and one is more likely to feel frightened than to learn anything.[…]'

Where Pyramids to Pyramids relate / And the whole fabrick doth configurate.

Now leave we Ywain to his fighting and turn we to the lady, that was there heavily cast down to be so left and benothinged.

The Poso, entering the Gulf of Tomini, is wide and navigable by blottos up to Paluasi, but is full of rapids above.