While there are people living beneath Manhattan — most of them addicts or mentally ill — many of Toth's claims of thousands of people living in quasi-tribes have been cast into doubt by the urban exploration community.

Allan Blye, a CBC-TV mainstay in the early Sixties, worked as a singer, writer and straight and comedic actor.

The forms which peopled this terrific trance I well remember—like a choir of devils, Around me they involved a giddy dance; Legions seemed gathering from the misty levels Of Ocean, to supply those ceaseless revels, Foul, ceaseless shadows: […]

King Christ,this world is all aleak; / and lifepreservers there are none: / and waves which only He may walk / Who dares to call himself a man. - Jehova buried, Satan dead, E E Cummings - W [Viva], XXIX