If someone says that they’re vegan but you find out that they occasionally eat a box of fried chicken when they’re very drunk or very sad, they’re not necessarily wokefishing you - they’re just human.

He had liked a girl named Sandra in seventh grade. Where did you get the name Hugo? she had asked him once. It sounds like a made-up name. What's your real name, Hugo? Or are you a Russian spy?

So on a normative realist picture, there will still be norms in Gibbard’s sense, and they will play many of the same psychological roles in explaining behavior that they do in the evaluativist picture.

a mile about, and a third of a mile across